Math for Non-Geeks/The infinite case

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{{#invoke:Math for Non-Geeks/Seite|oben}} In order for a set to have a supremum, it must be bounded from above. If it is unbounded, then there is a "formal supremum of ". Here, we will define what this means exactly. In addition, we will assign a supremum/ infimum to the empty set.

Improper suprema and infima for unbounded sets

A set M is unbounded from above if it has no upper bound. Than means, every S must not be an upper bound, so there is an element xM with x>S. That's already the mathematical definition:

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In that case, the upper bound of M is formally , since for every element xm there is x<. We hence write

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Attention! The symbol does not define a real number. So supM= is not a supremum of M. Instead it is an improper supremum. Mathematicians spent some considerable effort into defining the object as a number. Their conclusion was that this cannot be done in a meaningful way: treating as a number would violate axioms of how to compute with numbers. For instance, we could try to define 3+. Intuitively, taking 3 and adding an infinite amount to it, we again get an infinite amount. So only 3+= makes sense. but subtracting from both sides gives us 3=0, which is plainly wrong! If you've got some time, you can play a bit with infinities in your head, trying to treat them as numbers. The result will be a lot of contradictions like 3=0 or 1=2. This is certainly the best way to convince yourself not to treat as a real number ;)


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Analogously for sets unbounded from below:

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Improper supremum and infimum of the empty set

The empty set does also not really have a supremum or infimum: We consider M=, then a supremum would formally be the smallest upper bound.

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Following the answers to the 2 questions above, it makes sense to define

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Again, be cautious: This is not a real number! The set has no supremum, but an improper supremum, instead. And the same holds for the infimum. Always keep proper and improper suprema/ infima strictly apart!


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